RFK Jr.'s Wi-Fi and 5G conspiracies appear to make it into MAHA report draft

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1970-01-01

Read the draft. Overall, it's a decent take on the situation. Yes, they have included anti-vax and other stupid ideas, which should be ignored for the majority, but the overall take is still accurate enough to execute and provide a benefit. It seems as if they are putting out a strategy and have been forced to include the duck. Just get rid of the duck and it's good.

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happytoexplain

Are you just using the metaphor loosely, or are you actually suggesting that they explicitly do not believe in the duck and are counting on others to ask for it to be removed to reduce scrutiny on the parts they do believe in?

1970-01-01

I'm using it tightly and rightly. Keep the bits about clean water, clean air, microplastic pollution, screentime, drug commercials, etc.

Have your doctor selectively ignore the anti-vax and non-ionizing EM radiation ducks.

goyagoji

The demented mind of a legacy child is supposed to help us agree to ignore the auto industry and its neo-fascist accomplices while they kill children.

wasabi991011

I'd say it's more of a mixed bag.

There's some good (microbiome research, cracking down on influencers advertising drugs), some bad (anti-fluoride, autism scare, vaccine scare, EM radiation scare), some I can't evaluate (usefulness of non-animal models, usefulness of AI in cancer research and in diagnostic medicine), and some that depend heavily on implementation (prescription impact on mental health, building a general data platform, changing nutrition labelling).

It's certainly doesn't seem like a dismantling of the agency nor an attempt at corruption.

However, RFK Jr. and the rest of this administration has a lot of baggage, I heavily disagree with the idea that the bad ideas here are just a distraction duck.

genman
pyman

> the report does not mention the leading causes of death for American children, which are firearms and motor vehicle accidents.

I'm honestly tired of seeing all these AI wannabes bragging on Twitter and LinkedIn about how they've built a tool that does "10x better" than something else, and how they only hire people willing to work 80 hours a week, with no life and no need for money. They're trying to normalise tech sweatshops because their VCs told them that being a psychopath is the fastest way to get a return on investment. These founders are so driven and so dumb that I have more respect for flat-earth conspiracy theorists than for this new wave of brainless, heartless founders.

And I don't buy into their Mother Theresa's story either, that they'll exploit people for decades, cash out billions, and then magically turn into philanthropists to fix all the harm they caused.

This is the time to use technology to solve real problems. That's the mission, that's why we're here. The leading causes of death for American children are firearms and motor vehicle accidents. The Volvo engineer who invented the seatbelt is a hero because he saved millions of lives.

We need to stop these shallow founders from destroying the reputation of our industry.

(Sorry for the rant)

jmclnx

>For instance, it includes no proposed restrictions

All this does for me is shows these people are in only for the kickbacks.

Outside of ignoring the constitution (ICE), giving/continuing a tax break worth billions to the top 1% and eliminating science nothing that will help the US in the future has been done.

If this is not stopped, all the US will have left is a weapon building industry. Remember, drug research, a huge growing industry that the US leads has just be killed by RFK jr.

amanaplanacanal

Hopefully the upcoming midterm elections will allow some sanity to return.

Sniffnoy

I know this isn't the point, but it really bugs me to see "conspiracy" used to mean "conspiracy theory" in this way. (And this is less of a proper conspiracy theory and more just a crackpot theory, tbh.)

jfengel

Conspiracy theories and crackpot theories overlap a lot. A lot of crackpot theories include a conspiracy component: not only is my crackpot theory true, but also there is a conspiracy to suppress it.

The conspiracy theory element is a heuristic for evaluating the crackpot theory: setting aside the particulars of the theory, does it also require an utterly enormous, vastly powerful group to keep that secret (but not quite powerful enough to keep you from having discovered the truth)?

That's a heuristic, not a proof. But it does give you a hint about which notions are worth your time to investigate further.

DemocracyFTW2

> Notably, the report does not mention the leading causes of death for American children, which are firearms and motor vehicle accidents. Cancer, another top killer, is only mentioned in the context of pushing new AI technologies at the National Institutes of Health. Poisonings, another top killer, are also not mentioned explicitly.

These people don't care for you. You are just Menschenmaterial to them, something to be be used, abused, exploited, then discarded.

coin

I wonder if smart meters are included. There’s a conspiracy theory around the RF emitted by smart meters.

mikestew

They have 5G radios in them, IIRC. Of course there's crackpot theories about the RF.

(In fact, I'm pretty sure the reason I know that smart meters use 5G is because of the crackpot theories about "smart meters use 5G, and we all know what that does!!11One!".

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