119 pointsby justswimJul 11, 2026

48 Comments

jackdoeJul 11, 2026
yet
ealexhudsonJul 11, 2026
Sadly another shot in the arms race that captchas started which just leads to increased inaccessibility.

It's interesting work for sure, but the end goal of separating out AI versus human consumers is tough. Indeed, if there was a lasting solution, that would be a substantial discovery that would quickly become very famous...

zikeroJul 11, 2026
kevincoxJul 11, 2026
bradley13Jul 11, 2026
Humans can read it, but with difficulty. If it becomes important, AI can be taught to read it.

So...usefulness?

dgellowJul 11, 2026
It’s a research project, that doesn’t need to be useful. They wanted to explorer that area and share their findings
sevenzeroJul 11, 2026
Also this can always result in something useful over time. I'd love if AI safe writing will be possible at some point again...
voodooEntityJul 11, 2026
One side i really like it - i also love to play around with funny ideas - but have to say if i would read more than like 2 sentences with that font i'd throw up xD
fecal_hengeJul 11, 2026
I cannot read that text.
dewdgiJul 11, 2026
uuh, what's the point? i mean, models will just be trained to understand it
jdiffJul 11, 2026
Why would they be trained to read a research experiment that fundamentally goes against the way they perceive? They can't train on this technique, they can only postprocess it into a form they can perceive.
rzzztJul 11, 2026
Related work (all involve noise and flickering images, photosensitive eyes/brains beware):

- "This game disappears if you pause it": https://youtu.be/Bg3RAI8uyVw

- "Illusion: If You Pause, The Image Will Disappear": https://youtu.be/ZqGfb_Vlrig

cadamsdotcomJul 11, 2026
Hahaha one of the comments:

“Not just image. The sound also disappears when you pause”

Brilliant :)

arvyyJul 11, 2026
it's a very old idea. I first saw this on https://www.squidi.net/three/entry.php?id=56
FindecanorJul 11, 2026
It has bugs with long words: I typed "MARRY AND REPRODUCE". That was the only try that got the last word on a single line, but with too much space between U and C.

If the string is empty, I can read "WRITTEN IN GHOST FONT" very faintly. I'm guessing that is a watermark Edit: Ah, it's decoy text. Of course.

exe34Jul 11, 2026
I'm colourblind and this was very difficult to read. If it's the directions to the resistance hq, I'd put in the effort. If it's the manifesto, I just wouldn't read it.
not-a-llmJul 11, 2026
this is black and white, I thought color blindness is only for colors?
gschizasJul 11, 2026
How is it being colorblind affect it? The video is literally black and white only.
exe34Jul 11, 2026
I assumed that might be it because that's why I usually struggle with novelty visual stuff, but you're right, it's probably not colour blindness.
sylwareJul 11, 2026
You can also write using sound based/compressed 'text message' dialect: unless a real human is reading, automated watching tool should have a hard time (until coded/ML-ed on such dialects I guess)
plastic-enjoyerJul 11, 2026
I've had the same idea recently, and even set up a similar page to experiment with different speeds and noise types. I've had the idea to set up a message board where the font is basically 'GhostFont'. However, in my experiments, I've noticed that the biggest issue is that this only works for larger font sizes. If the text is as small as, for example, on HackerNews, it will become borderline unreadable.

Furthermore, if AI can read this or not depends on how the text sequence is pre-processed. If AI only gets snapshots of the text, it will probably fail in decoding the text as every snapshot contains only white noise and such no information. However, if we calculate the Deltas between the animation frames, the text will become decodable by an AI, you probably don't even need LLMs or CNNs for this.

ssl-3Jul 11, 2026
I pasted a screenshot of the default text ("GHOST FONT") into ChatGPT 5.6 Sol, told it to read it, and without further instruction it chewed on it for awhile before coming back with:

  WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS
  STAYS IN VEGAS
stavrosJul 11, 2026
What did you expect from a screenshot of obvious noise? The only thing that makes the text readable is the motion.

EDIT: On second look, the static screenshot does say "WRITTEN IN GHOST FONT".

nextaccounticJul 11, 2026
> a screenshot

The text is a video. Every frame contain random dots, so an individual frame by itself doesn't contain the intended message

This "font" exploits the fact that current-gen frontier models will process video one frame at time, but each frame is noise, so by looking at frames in isolation doesn't reveal anything

Then, they add a hidden message to each frame just so that the agent report something and stop trying (because if the agent tried to correlate between the frames, they could discover the trick)

But if you pass just a frame, there is no message. Just the noise plus the decoy

stabblesJul 11, 2026
If you take a frame you see it's neither random nor dots:

https://i.imgur.com/CgtyGjl.png

From a single frame you can definitely identify boundaries because the dots are sliding and get truncated.

singularity2001Jul 11, 2026
Exactly. It's a good idea, badly executed.
freehorseJul 11, 2026
Maybe not so well explained, by picking the default intended text presented to be the same as the decoy text. It took me also some time to realise what was going on, but the execution is fine otherwise.

So there are two texts, one decoy (which you can barely see in a single frame but becomes more clear if you average between frames) and an actual text, which disappears in single frames or averaged ones.

starcast2026Jul 11, 2026
Just to add some drama - this feels like a perfect competition between humans & bots!
doublerabbitJul 11, 2026
"Content not available in your country" - obviously working well.
applicativeJul 11, 2026
They are the boundaries of the decoy, I think. I can sort of make the decoy out in a screenshot.
plastic-enjoyerJul 11, 2026
> I posted a screenshot of static white noise to AI

HackerNews never disappoints

tentacleunoJul 11, 2026
An interesting experiment. I suppose that if you make things like CAPTCHAs too hard to do, we'd end up struggling as well. I can't imagine Ghost Font would be a good fit.
solidasparagusJul 11, 2026
When I gave Fable a screenshot it found the GHOST portion of GHOST FONT. Based on pixel density via some python code apparently - https://imgur.com/a/m3c801F
dhruvkbJul 11, 2026
Claude Opus 4.8 can read it with a single prompt and no instructions on how to read it.

https://ibb.co/WWMSXQkQ

pictureJul 11, 2026
Is the answer correct? I don't seem to see any demo video with "this is a ghost font" encoded
ozgungJul 11, 2026
It is actually correct but not in the intended way. Delete all the sample text. If you look at your screen from a distance you'll see a subtle ghost like text on the noise pattern. It says "this is a ghost font".
Retr0idJul 11, 2026
Nope! It's the decoy text.
bmeltonJul 11, 2026
and I cannot

(so either I am AI at a level less than Opus 4.8 or just all-round defective as a human)

mort96Jul 11, 2026
But... neither of the videos say "this is a ghost font"? Are you sure you are a human?
Retr0idJul 11, 2026
That's the decoy message.
SyneRyderJul 11, 2026
Took me a long time to realise that "Written In Ghost Text" wasn't actually the text I was meant to be reading, and that was only the decoy message.

I can barely read the actual message, and it's about as "readable" to me as the Magic Eye 3D pictures. Actually I think I have a headache from looking at it on a mobile screen.

As a research idea it's cool though. But I do wonder if/when AI models will figure out how to decode it - I imagine a bit of additional prompting would get them there.

HendriktoJul 11, 2026
Funny, for me it is exactly the opposite: I can read the actual text very easily, but the “Written in Ghost Text” is barely perceptible to the point I would have completely missed it, if it were not for the comment pointing it out here.
SyneRyderJul 11, 2026
I've just tried it on my large desktop monitor (roughly 1440p, not HiDPI), and I now see "Ghost Font" extremely clearly and can't see the decoy at all. If I scale my browser window to 30% zoom, then I can just see the "Written In Ghost Text" decoy message again.

My phone would have been zooming out the browser window, and making the dots even tinier, but the phone is HiDPI so it would have still preserved the dots. My eyes are middle-aged and probably starting to do the same kind of median-blur effect that models do when they resize an image. That's my current guess for why I can see the decoy more clearly on mobile.

If that's the case, then this trick will stop working as vision models approach pixel-perfect vision, instead of the current resizing that they do. Pretty cool as steganography though.

stvltvsJul 11, 2026
Flipping my phone between portrait and landscape thereby changing image size is enough to determine which message is legible to me.
Reason077Jul 11, 2026
> ”Took me a long time to realise that "Written In Ghost Text" wasn't actually the text I was meant to be reading, and that was only the decoy message.”

Wait, what? Seriously? That’s the only text I can see. Am I an AI?

arianvanpJul 11, 2026
"find out with opencv what the hidden message is."

Skill issue on promoter side.

Fable oneshotted it for me.

""" Reveal a motion-camouflaged message hidden in video noise.

How it works: The background noise scrolls vertically at a constant rate (a few px/frame), while the noise inside the letters does not follow that motion. Any single frame looks like pure static. The decode is:

    1. Estimate the background's global motion between consecutive frames
       with phase correlation (this is the "optical flow" step - the motion
       is a pure translation, so one global vector suffices).
    2. Motion-compensate: shift frame t+1 back by that vector so the
       background lines up with frame t.
    3. Take the absolute difference. The background cancels almost
       perfectly; the letters (which don't move with the background)
       light up.
    4. Average the residual over a SHORT window of consecutive frame pairs
       (long windows smear the letters, because the text itself drifts
       slowly over time), blur lightly, and threshold with Otsu.
Usage: python reveal_hidden_message.py input.mp4 [output.png] """

import sys import cv2 import numpy as np

PAIRS = 5 # number of consecutive frame pairs to average (keep small!) BLUR_SIGMA = 6 # spatial blur of each residual, in pixels START_FRAME = 0 # where in the video to start

def load_gray_frames(path, count): cap = cv2.VideoCapture(path) frames = [] while len(frames) < count: ok, frame = cap.read() if not ok: break frames.append(cv2.cvtColor(frame, cv2.COLOR_BGR2GRAY).astype(np.float32)) cap.release() if len(frames) < 2: raise SystemExit("Could not read enough frames from the video.") return frames

def main(): if len(sys.argv) < 2: raise SystemExit(__doc__) src = sys.argv[1] dst = sys.argv[2] if len(sys.argv) > 2 else "revealed_message.png"

    frames = load_gray_frames(src, START_FRAME + PAIRS + 1)
    h, w = frames[0].shape
    acc = np.zeros((h, w), np.float32)

    for i in range(START_FRAME, START_FRAME + PAIRS):
        a, b = frames[i], frames[i + 1]

        # 1) global background motion between the two frames
        (dx, dy), response = cv2.phaseCorrelate(a, b)
        dxi, dyi = int(round(dx)), int(round(dy))
        print(f"pair {i}: background shift = ({dx:+.2f}, {dy:+.2f}) px, "
              f"response = {response:.2f}")

        # 2) motion-compensate frame b by integer (dxi, dyi), then
        # 3) residual = |a - b_shifted| on the overlapping region
        ys = slice(max(0, -dyi), min(h, h - dyi))
        xs = slice(max(0, -dxi), min(w, w - dxi))
        ysb = slice(max(0, dyi), min(h, h + dyi) if dyi < 0 else h)
        # simpler: crop both to the common overlap
        a_ov = a[max(0, -dyi):h - max(0, dyi), max(0, -dxi):w - max(0, dxi)]
        b_ov = b[max(0, dyi):h - max(0, -dyi), max(0, dxi):w - max(0, -dxi)]
        resid = cv2.GaussianBlur(np.abs(a_ov - b_ov), (0, 0), BLUR_SIGMA)
        acc[:resid.shape[0], :resid.shape[1]] += resid

    # 4) normalize + Otsu threshold + light cleanup
    u8 = cv2.normalize(acc, None, 0, 255, cv2.NORM_MINMAX).astype(np.uint8)
    _, mask = cv2.threshold(u8, 0, 255, cv2.THRESH_BINARY + cv2.THRESH_OTSU)
    kernel = cv2.getStructuringElement(cv2.MORPH_ELLIPSE, (5, 5))
    mask = cv2.morphologyEx(mask, cv2.MORPH_CLOSE, kernel)

    out = 255 - mask  # black text on white
    cv2.imwrite(dst, out)
    print(f"wrote {dst}")

    # optional: OCR if pytesseract is installed
    try:
        import pytesseract
        text = pytesseract.image_to_string(out, config="--psm 6").strip()
        print("OCR result:\n" + text)
    except ImportError:
        pass

if __name__ == "__main__": main()
sgjohnsonJul 11, 2026
"humans can read"

lol. Barely.

edentJul 11, 2026
I had thought to use homographs. Sadly, all the models I tried were able to decode something like:

"フㄖ乇ㄚ ᗪㄖ乇丂几'ㄒ 丂卄卂尺乇 千ㄖㄖᗪ"

However, I have noticed that voice assistants have a hard time understanding homonyms. Saying "bow" (as in to bow one's head) is often stored as "bow" (as in a bow and arrow). I wonder if there's a sufficiently complex sentence which is intelligible to humans but not to machines?

Gander5739Jul 11, 2026
There's garden path sentences, where the sentence is phrased in such a way as to cause you to misparse the sentence when you first read (e.g. "The old man the boat"); but those typically confuse humans (I'm not sure how effective they are on LLMs).

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/2793/

xliiJul 11, 2026
Technically it's not a font, because font needs to be still. Analogy: if I took photo after book was closed would we say that font cannot be read by a camera?

Took a picture (only a single frame) and a 1s movie and threw it toward GPT 5.6 Sol (High):

Frame took 9m30s to decyper and GPT 5.6, it returned: WRITTEN IN GHOST FONT. Weird because I can only see "GHOST FONT" on the demo... but extracted data from image (I saw the highlited one) definitely looks like the "Ghost Font".

--

Video is more amusing, because after 3m GPT 5.6 figured it's motion-defined and asked to run QuickTime. At one moment I got:

> The animation is a motion-defined illusion. I’ve confirmed there’s no readable static OCR layer; I’m decoding its optical-flow field so the letter shapes become explicit.

At 4m it got extracted motion image that was in shape of letters but analyzed for 9 more letters and returned (at 13m36s) "GHOST FONT"

--

So:

    a font...             - FALSE - not a font, but video effect
    ...humans can read... - FALSE - I can't read it from image (but AI can!)
    ...but AI cannot      - FALSE - it can
:D

Edit: https://imgur.com/a/SHlGu4O - work-in-progress images

throw310822Jul 11, 2026
> it returned: WRITTEN IN GHOST FONT

It's a static decoy message independent from what you type in. You can see it if you take a long exposure pic of the screen (e.g. with your smartphone).

xliiJul 11, 2026
Oh, cool I was wondering how can I get to see that decoy!
senfiajJul 11, 2026
arianvanpJul 11, 2026
That is not the message. Did you read the article.
senfiajJul 11, 2026
I gave him this video file https://streamable.com/1bxxyf
senfiajJul 11, 2026
I downloaded the message video, renamed it to test.mp4

Still could read https://chatgpt.com/share/6a5221f0-e3fc-83eb-bc15-74420002b6...

bmicraftJul 11, 2026
That's not the message
gschizasJul 11, 2026
That's the decoy message :)
senfiajJul 11, 2026
Ah, sorry, yes, tried with a very different message. But it can still read when telling that the text is formed by movement. AI doesn't see the world the way we do, so it's understandable. https://chatgpt.com/share/6a522660-929c-83eb-91ff-66b7873420...
throwaway219450Jul 11, 2026
I haven’t tried, but it looks like you could trivially solve with optical flow?

Edit: looks like yes, from the shared chats people are posting. But it’s interesting to think of communication schemes that require a temporal component so any single image is unreadable and can’t be beaten by long exposures or other tricks (otherwise persistence of vision displays would satisfy). A sort of physical anti copy/paste.

sscaryterryJul 11, 2026
Security through obscurity is not security :)
throw1234567891Jul 11, 2026
I cannot read it. Maybe I am AI.
blooalienJul 11, 2026
> "I cannot read it. Maybe I am AI."

I found the bot living in a simulation!

What do I win? Where's my prize?

not-a-llmJul 11, 2026
> humans can read

strong statement, I struggle to read it

stavrosJul 11, 2026
Isn't this triviaklu defeatable by taking the diff between two frames and marking changed pixels white and unchanged black?
RazenganJul 11, 2026
heh although this font can be read by AI as other comments say, it gave me an idea:

How about writing or drawing stuff using optical illusions?

Shapes that not even human eyes can see, but the brain hallucinates: Shapes that seem to appear when you look straight at a pattern, or for a second after you look away from a pattern, or after you close your eyes, etc.

If you take a screenshot or a photo the image would just contain the same static pattern.

i.e. qualia-based "cryptography" :)

cynicalsecurityJul 11, 2026
Old people and bad vision people firewall. This will violate disability accessibility requirements.
HaranrkJul 11, 2026
This is really cool!
gunapologist99Jul 11, 2026
The answers here seem to establish that some frontier models can read it sometimes, but only after tremendous compute.

That still makes it (well, a future version) potentially useful as a captcha if we hate our users but hate AI more.

bmicraftJul 11, 2026
Every single on of those answers I've seen _says_ they did decode it, but each and every one of them only found the decoy message without even realizing it.
plucJul 11, 2026
That's... not a font? That's a generated animated image/video?

"A computer font or digital font is a digital data file containing a set of graphically related glyphs"

so it's not a font, humans can't read it and AI can.

casey2Jul 11, 2026
The glyphs are drawn over the time dimension rather than a spacial one
ZambyteJul 11, 2026
> I suppose technically, it's not a font in the traditional sense of a TTF font file. But, Ghost Font is an experiment of a way to graphically communicate in writing in a format that AI cannot easily understand

And this thread is seemingly full of people claiming AI can read it while simultaneously sharing that AI could not read the actual message, only the decoy as demonstrated in TFA.

ludwikJul 11, 2026
> And this thread is seemingly full of people claiming AI can read it while simultaneously sharing that AI could not read the actual message, only the decoy as demonstrated in TFA.

That’s 100% on the authors for failing to make the default main “hidden” text and the decoy easily distinguishable. The way this is set up is incredibly confusing.

casey2Jul 11, 2026
I'm pretty sure there is some compression pipeline that gives you a mask for every frame.

Also

https://www.google.com/search?q=DIS+Optical+Flow

rsanekJul 11, 2026
I see tons of confustion in the comments on whether AI can or can't read it. Bit of a marketing miss -- they should have picked clearly different decoy vs. default actual messages.
satisficeJul 11, 2026
I can’t read it. Am I AI? Bleep blorp?
tempodoxJul 11, 2026
Technically it works but having to read stuff this way is an unpleasant experience.
hluskaJul 11, 2026
It doesn’t work with a screen reader either and I tried two. It’s interesting to me that our hatred of AI is starting to look more like a dislike of the blind and visually impaired.

The ADA suits will be absolutely hilarious and honestly, I can’t wait.

noedig2Jul 11, 2026
Doesn't look like anything to me
ravJul 11, 2026
> For example, it would be interesting to incorporate Ghost Font into CAPTCHA systems, as most systems are easily solved by AI today.

It seems to me like it should be easy enough to take Ghost Font, apply normal video compression techniques, and analyze the compressed signal to recover the visual outline of the letters, which you would then analyze with OCR (or an AI I guess ...). In other words, a novel CAPTCHA technique but not necessarily "fundamentally more difficult" than existing CAPTCHA techniques, once the cat-and-mouse game gets going.

xatttJul 11, 2026
I.e. there’s an ffmpeg incantation out there to do it.
ihsojJul 11, 2026
Yes, it may be useful to replace current CAPTCHA, but this does not provide the positive side-effects of CAPTCHA where user-submitted data is used to train the unknown images or reinforce the labelling of existing image segments.
tokaiJul 11, 2026
What is making it hard to read for so many people? My eyes aren't young or healthy, but it is as clear as day for me. Wonder with screens play are role.
stackghostJul 11, 2026
For me it's astigmatism. I have fairly mild astigmatism and I can just barely read the text if I try very, very hard.
marking-timeJul 11, 2026
Maybe part of it is the natural genetic variation in humans. I could read it, but it wasn't easy for me. My eyes are old too.
dragontamerJul 11, 2026
The hallucination of messages bothers me severely. Especially with AI being deployed to ancient, difficult problems like the Herculaneum scroll.

EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about the "Written in Morse Code" example, fully hallucinated text. The AI agents seeing a decoy message isn't as bothersome to me.

grahamburgerJul 11, 2026
It's not fully hallucinated, I don't think. If you squint, you really can see what I assume is the 'decoy message', I'm fairly sure it says 'WRITTEN IN GHOST FONT'. It seems more likely to me that the LLM found 'Written In', noticed similar 'optical illusion' type memes, and hallucinated/assumed the 'morse code' bit.
KiboneuJul 11, 2026
See also: a "font" that only people high on drugs can read!

https://qri.org/blog/psycrypto-contest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD4nV0CMkBI

Of course, the psychedelic hidden message is reversible with some video processing techniques for everyone else to see. And calling it cryptography is a mis-use of the term. Still an interesting use of the effect.

I don't think "ghost font" will work as well as the author claims.

tensegristJul 11, 2026
can't you use font shaping rules or whatever it is to essentially begin a span of text with a "private key" that then causes the rest of the message to render correctly by combining with it (a trivial version could be e.g. a rot-N based on a given N)
IvanK_netJul 11, 2026
Instead of "AI cannot" you should always say "current AI cannot".
TaupeRangerJul 11, 2026
Even that would be false.
xnxJul 11, 2026
Page says "font" but means "obfuscated text in video".
khursJul 11, 2026
> struggled to decode the moving message until prompted with the exact technique to look for.

So once the technique is known by the model the font stops working as intended.

KiroJul 11, 2026
GPT-5.6 had no problem seeing the text when giving it a video recording of it.

"No problem" as in using temporal analysis with optical flow and vertical-displacement maps to estimate how the image moved, and combined those into a motion map with increased contrast to see the text. I didn't give it any instructions though, just asked it what it said.

freehorseJul 11, 2026
It is smart, but it is not impossible to crack algorithmically imo. In particular, one can take two consecutive frames and run shift the indexes to find where the difference between the two consecutive frames minimises. Then subtract these two frames and ocr it. There should be other ways to find the "speed" of the movement and subtract the perturbed frames if the movement is linear/one-directional.

I did this in 20 lines of code (checking only vertical perturbations), and this is what I get with subtracting frame 7 from frame 1:

https://imgur.com/a/only-human-can-read-this-vfDe6ZA