Apparently this was an exercise book he made for a parisian tutee, who later fled the french revolution, leading to the confiscation of the notebook by the revolutionaries.
yayoohooyahoo•Jun 26, 2026
That's exactly what the article says... so yes apparently that's what it is
stinkbeetle•Jun 26, 2026
I have it on good authority that it is a handwritten notebook.
rob74•Jun 26, 2026
Note-book, as in "book containing musical notes". I expected a regular notebook (for the other kind of notes, that people like you and me might write)...
palmotea•Jun 26, 2026
> I have it on good authority that it is a handwritten notebook.
I'm suspicious. Didn't Mozart use a word processor?
I mean, not a PC program, that would be ridiculous, but one of those dedicated stand-alone word processor systems (like Smith-Corona made) that they used in ancient times.
CWuestefeld•Jun 26, 2026
One of my pet peeves is what seems to be an overwhelming desire in writers to always put an adjective in front of every noun. You can never just let it be a "notebook", it has to be some kind of notebook.
It's even worse in product naming and advertising. Nothing can be just "vanilla", you have to even put an adjective in front of your adjectives, like "Mexican vanilla".
EDIT: s/verb/noun/
loloquwowndueo•Jun 26, 2026
Rich Corinthian leather! My dude!
abstractspoon•Jun 21, 2026
Anyone remember the Hitler diaries?
K2Short•Jun 26, 2026
I hope we get to hear his new/old music. That would be amazing
nasso_dev•Jun 26, 2026
french radio "France Musique" aired it the other day, i don't know if its available outside of france though
mmmattt•Jun 26, 2026
It was also played live for Fête de la musique in Paris last Sunday.
Turns out "technical debt" also applies to national archives.
jfengel•Jun 26, 2026
More than you can possibly imagine. There are warehouses full of unread papers. Any one of which could contain a reference to somebody or something important.
There was a recently discovered letter, possibly to Shakespeare's wife, which would completely change our understanding of their marriage, and even the way his plays depict women. The only way to find such things is by hordes of grad students trudging their way through fragile paper and messy handwriting.
mmooss•Jun 26, 2026
I hate to say it, but might LLMs transform archival work? Not by replacing researchers, but by inputting everything (or orders of magnitude more than we could previously) and outputting to the researcher a prioritized list of documents / etc to examine?
LeoPanthera•Jun 26, 2026
"It is a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years."
Tom Lehrer.
NooneAtAll3•Jun 26, 2026
Mozart lived for 35 years
Lehrer did 97
irishcoffee•Jun 26, 2026
It is possible Lehrer said that before his last day on earth. Sometime around age 37 would make sense.
ggm•Jun 26, 2026
(Lehrer was a mathematician) he did the maths! Well.. arithmetic.
SoftTalker•Jun 26, 2026
Was that the new math or the old?
assimpleaspossi•Jun 26, 2026
In fact, I had the original album from the 1960s and, yes, that's where I heard the line.
palmotea•Jun 26, 2026
> Lehrer did [sic] 97
FYI, most people speak the vast majority of their quotes before the day they die.
VeninVidiaVicii•Jun 26, 2026
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
hbn•Jun 26, 2026
Unfortunately for Lehrer he embarrassed himself in his final words by misremembering how long Mozart lived
lubujackson•Jun 26, 2026
Classic old guy
simonh•Jun 26, 2026
He’ll never live it down.
latexr•Jun 26, 2026
I sure hope they speak all of them before they die. Bit hard to understand a corpse.
mrighele•Jun 26, 2026
I love his handwriting style. I wonder if it was the first draft or a copy [1]
Wow. Can we even be sure we're listening to the right thing? Is it actually possible to read this unambiguously or is there an element of context when reading music, similar to how if you're reading prose the next word is probably grammatically correct and makes sense?
Fritatta•Jun 26, 2026
Exactly. The context makes it all pretty clear. Music has its own grammar, and particularly music of the common practice era from about 1650-1930.
SoftTalker•Jun 26, 2026
Schools used to spend a lot of time on penmanship. I visited a high school where they had a wall of notes left by each senior class. In the notes from the 1950s the writing was quite refined and looked very practiced, and notes left by kids in the 2020s looked like 2nd grade printing by comparison. I don't think cursive handwriting is really even taught/required anymore.
I can imagine that in the time of Bach or Mozart that writing was a big point of emphasis in schools.
JasonFruit•Jun 26, 2026
I see you've never worked your way through a manuscript by Donizetti.
spacechild1•Jun 26, 2026
Beethoven certainly wasn't.
jansan•Jun 26, 2026
Let's hope it is more authentic than the Hitler Diaries[1]
Any time something of popular historical interest like this pops up I think about that.
If you've not read it then Robert Harris's (factual) book about the affair is entertaining, not least because such a broad sweep of dislikeable characters were undone by greed and folly!
spacechild1•Jun 26, 2026
The whole affair was bizarre. At one point Kujau, the author of the fake diaries, ran out of ideas and let Hitler complain about his flatulence.
There is also a very funny German movie about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schtonk!) The director later said that he intentionally omitted some facts about the real scandal because the audience would find it too far fetched.
dcminter•Jun 26, 2026
I think my favourite aspect of the tale (at least as Harris tells it) is that Kujau was such a bad forger, and the recipients wanted it all to be true so badly that they skipped several opportunities to actually check!
I shall see if I can find Schtonk! with subtitles, sounds up my alley.
bell-cot•Jun 26, 2026
Even inside the tiny niche of the classical music history world, a book of daily exercises - written for some now-obscure student, and owned by a national library - is actually a pretty minor thing.
Very few counterfeiters bother doing nickles and dimes.
NopIdoN•Jun 26, 2026
BTW the metal in a nickel is worth about 7 cents.
ggm•Jun 26, 2026
Confiscated during the revolution, kept by the national library. That's a bit different to "forged on schoolbooks with a Bic pen" provenance-wise.
estetlinus•Jun 26, 2026
> By coincidence, Goy had been looking at other documents Mozart had written for teaching just weeks earlier
Color me sceptical
nok22kon•Jun 26, 2026
parallel construction
bell-cot•Jun 26, 2026
He was a niche-specialty career archivist, sorting through his library's collection of stuff from the right era and area. That is the discovery story behind a rather large fraction of such documents.
estetlinus•Jun 26, 2026
So not much a coincidence I’d say. Very much by design.
I’m hoping that a full scan appears in the archive linked at the bottom of the page. I’m a composer and still hand-notate in a notebook. It’s so cool to the penmanship of someone writing in notebooks so quickly yet cleanly. In case you didn’t read, the contents are primarily exercises in composition where Mozart began a passage, the student continued, and Mozart corrected / guided the students work where needed. So there’s a higher percentage of Mozart in the pieces here than not. Like Brundlefly.
bit_economist•Jun 26, 2026
There is not a single citation in this article, even though it uses quotations.
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I'm suspicious. Didn't Mozart use a word processor?
I mean, not a PC program, that would be ridiculous, but one of those dedicated stand-alone word processor systems (like Smith-Corona made) that they used in ancient times.
It's even worse in product naming and advertising. Nothing can be just "vanilla", you have to even put an adjective in front of your adjectives, like "Mexican vanilla".
EDIT: s/verb/noun/
https://youtu.be/wk-sIeh7BcI?si=188fGFMD_f3DrkXP
There was a recently discovered letter, possibly to Shakespeare's wife, which would completely change our understanding of their marriage, and even the way his plays depict women. The only way to find such things is by hordes of grad students trudging their way through fragile paper and messy handwriting.
Tom Lehrer.
Lehrer did 97
FYI, most people speak the vast majority of their quotes before the day they die.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqfpkTTy2w
https://guides.loc.gov/beethoven/manuscripts
I can imagine that in the time of Bach or Mozart that writing was a big point of emphasis in schools.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Diaries
If you've not read it then Robert Harris's (factual) book about the affair is entertaining, not least because such a broad sweep of dislikeable characters were undone by greed and folly!
There is also a very funny German movie about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schtonk!) The director later said that he intentionally omitted some facts about the real scandal because the audience would find it too far fetched.
I shall see if I can find Schtonk! with subtitles, sounds up my alley.
Very few counterfeiters bother doing nickles and dimes.
Color me sceptical
You stiffed Mozart!? A curse on your ghost!
https://youtu.be/wk-sIeh7BcI?si=188fGFMD_f3DrkXP
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333644/
This review doesn't spoil the movie https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jun/19/in-the-hand-of-...
Side note, imdb's per country rating histograms are mesmerizing https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333644/ratings/ how different the Iranian ratings are vs the UK.
https://www.bnf.fr/en/actualitesEN/discovery-unpublished-aut...
I’m hoping that a full scan appears in the archive linked at the bottom of the page. I’m a composer and still hand-notate in a notebook. It’s so cool to the penmanship of someone writing in notebooks so quickly yet cleanly. In case you didn’t read, the contents are primarily exercises in composition where Mozart began a passage, the student continued, and Mozart corrected / guided the students work where needed. So there’s a higher percentage of Mozart in the pieces here than not. Like Brundlefly.
Here is a more reputable article for this news story: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/22/arts/music/mozart-music-f...