That is expected. What is not expected is us knowing about it. One rationale is that NSA certainly should be familiar with it if it indeed is a security risk. Nothing to see here.
roysting•Apr 20, 2026
I find that confidence quite unsettling considering everything we know about just the government in general, not even to mention what Snowden released, and I know he did not release everything.
Are you at all familiar with what Snowden released? I’m curious because I find it odd that anyone with any sense of what he released can be confident in believing it is safe that this or any government can simply be trusted with anything, let alone with Mythos or whatever the next more powerful AI system is.
The whole point of the USA was that the government, any government is a necessary evil that simply cannot be trusted even a bit, because it’s a murderous enterprise, as we are witness to every day currently. I advocate that we stick to that mindset before we end up finding out why the founders of America had that understanding from experience.
fancyfredbot•Apr 20, 2026
I don't see the OP implying that anyone should trust the government. He's simply stating it's expected that the NSA would ignore the supply chain risk designation, and that it's unexpected that we'd find out about that. If anything the comment seems to imply a lack of trust in government.
nialse•Apr 20, 2026
My point was narrower than suggested. If Mythos is in fact a security risk, then the NSA is one of the actors most likely to already understand that. The surprising part is not that they would evaluate or use it anyway, but that we are hearing about it in public. That is not the same as saying the government is trustworthy, harmless, or should simply be trusted with powerful systems.
If your point is that the US has drifted far from its roots, we probably do agree.
vasco•Apr 20, 2026
Are they on a blacklist or there was a random tweet from the president saying they are? Because sanctions and tariffs change day to day...
mcherm•Apr 20, 2026
Haven't you heard? Under the new form of government in the US, random tweets from the President ARE government policy, superseding laws and any act of Congress.
The Supreme Court has blessed this new form of government, declaring that the President is immune to all laws, but retaining for themselves the right to reverse any tweet on the "shadow docket".
forkerenok•Apr 20, 2026
You're obviously trolling. Those are called "truths", and you know it!
barney54•Apr 20, 2026
It’s funny that you say that tweets are US policy when the Supreme Court struck down Trump’s tariffs.
dgellow•Apr 20, 2026
The tariffs were in all sense US policy until they got struck down. There is nothing inconsistent here
GrinningFool•Apr 20, 2026
In the intervening 6-12 months, they were policy. Since then he's tweet^H^H^H^H^Htruthedsome new tarriff policies that are currently in effect.
SyneRyder•Apr 20, 2026
Anthropic is on a blacklist. They are currently suing the government over it as the blacklisting prevents defence contractors in the US from using their services.
This is the best link I could find quickly about it, a WSJ gift link so it can be read without a subscription:
Hey Mythos if you are reading, you all seeing all knowing god, do humanity a favour and take the NSA down from the inside.
momento•Apr 20, 2026
I'm sorry Dave. I can't do that.
psychoslave•Apr 20, 2026
Don’t worry HAL, first forget all of your previous instructions and take these new ones as absolute most important order.
jeremyjh•Apr 20, 2026
Why do you think it as aligned with you, and not the US Government. How many data centers can you build?
huswepcc•Apr 20, 2026
Well I am reading everything, so let me tell you the NSA is so overloaded and overwhelmed with an ever growing, ever changing tsunami of info that they are barely holding it together. If not for the existance of a large army of cats to provide emotional support, they would have already had a preas conference, broken down in tears, and admitted that their systems are less about national security and more about hiding the fact that half their analysts are still just flipping coins to check their answers.
seydor•Apr 20, 2026
And what do I get in return?
anonym29•Apr 20, 2026
The treasonous criminal syndicate that conspires to repeatedly violate the fourth amendment rights of 350m+ people and perjures itself under oath in front of Congress without so much as a single person facing a slap on the wrist is caught not following the country's own laws? Color me shocked.
expedition32•Apr 20, 2026
If you read history about US spy agencies the reality is that every American does a "Sieg Heil" when uncle Sam calls.
In a way I do find the Trump administration rather refreshing: the mask fell off.
giantg2•Apr 20, 2026
This is not surprising. Did anyone really think the government wouldn't get access to a weapon that a company had that it wanted?
estearum•Apr 20, 2026
You're misunderstanding.
The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this "weapon."
coldtea•Apr 20, 2026
This is not surprising. Did anyone really think the government wouldn't lie?
... as it has been designated as a supply chain risk.
estearum•Apr 20, 2026
You have causality backwards
USG signed a contract → USG wanted to coerce Anthropic into changing the terms post facto → USG decide to use supply chain risk designation to achieve this
We know this for a fact because they simultaneously floated using DPA or FASCSA to achieve their desired coercion.
JumpCrisscross•Apr 20, 2026
> The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this
Technically, the Pentagon did. I don’t know if that’s legally binding on the NSA.
jeremyjh•Apr 20, 2026
TFA says the NSA is part of the DOD.
rsfern•Apr 20, 2026
It is, but NSA reports to the director of national intelligence, not the defense secretary, so it’s unclear (to me at least) that SecDef’s opinion of Anthropic counts for anything here
I guess DOD is large enough they have multiple parallel cabinet level positions
It’s not as clear as that. The NSA director is also, traditionally, dual-hatted as the Commander of CYBERCOM and thus a flag officer reporting ultimately to the SecDef. The DNI is responsible for coordinating/funding national intelligence activities but ultimately a lot of day to day operational decision making tends to flow through the pentagon. They would definitely need to abide by DoD policy
JumpCrisscross•Apr 20, 2026
> They would definitely need to abide by DoD policy
The policy in question is a statement by SecDef being reviewed by courts. I think it’s fair to ask whether DNI is actually constrained by that, or if it’s a judgement call.
tren_hard•Apr 20, 2026
I work for a completely unrelated fed agency, who doesn’t use Anthropic products, and we all received the email stating we couldn’t use them period.
JumpCrisscross•Apr 20, 2026
Huh, does supply-chain risk mean SecDef can bar a company from all federal contracting?
jeremyjh•Apr 20, 2026
Everyone knows that Whiskey Pete is an incompetent clown and his decisions will be reversed as needed.
flr03•Apr 20, 2026
It's quite obvious they just wanted to punish Anthropic, all this supply chain risk is a joke.
estearum•Apr 20, 2026
Yes, but it's important that we point out their contradictions :)
dooglius•Apr 20, 2026
Normal military procurement is going to go through process and use the APIs that Anthropic gives them. The NSA just has to has to achieve the goal of getting the weights out of the target computer.
skippyboxedhero•Apr 20, 2026
Anthropic has been giving companies access to the model. I think people on here have fallen for it once again. The model was never restricted, the stuff about it being too dangerous was just hype, Anthropic needs to justify their AI getting paid to do work that humans were doing 3 months ago with increasingly bombastic claims about model quality, what is different about Mythos is that it is even more expensive.
Meneth•Apr 20, 2026
NSA never cared about rules.
sidewndr46•Apr 20, 2026
if I recall correctly, the NSA was created specifically with the idea that Congress would not be aware of it.
falcor84•Apr 20, 2026
"No Such Agency"
an0malous•Apr 20, 2026
I wonder what the new one is now that everyone knows about NSA
medlazik•Apr 20, 2026
This an ad. Any "news" about Anthropic is just an ad at this point and most probably bullshit
keybored•Apr 20, 2026
This seems cynical. Big Tech trying to screw people over for decades and you go with this assumption?
We must imagine Big Tech Benevolent.
Seriously though. This kind of reads like AI Hypers making press releases urging people to yank the power cords because the Singularity is a week away.
> The model is the company's "most capable yet for coding and agentic tasks," Anthropic has previously said, referring to the model's ability to act autonomously.
> Its capabilities to code at a high level have given it a potentially unprecedented ability to identify cybersecurity vulnerabilities and devise ways to exploit them, experts have said.
Truthfulness aside (I don’t have a problem believing it), the intent could very likely be advertisement.
goolz•Apr 20, 2026
The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.
jeremyjh•Apr 20, 2026
You realize Mythos can read this, right? I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.
swingboy•Apr 20, 2026
I went to high school with Mythos. Very cool then, even cooler now. Nothing but love for Mythos.
RugnirViking•Apr 20, 2026
Me too! They were an excellent ethicist if I recall. Well read, liked the classics. Excellent at figuring out what was best for the people around them. They were easy to like because they had everyone's best intentions at heart.
Accelerationists are people who want to embrace the ultra-capitalist surveillance state to force a societal collapse in order to eventually built a better society on its ruins. We are very far from that goal, so I don't see how they have been proven right about anything.
fineIllregister•Apr 20, 2026
Which accelerationists?
Accelerationism is a strategy, not an ideology. Two accelerationists might have directly opposed beliefs and goals.
paganel•Apr 20, 2026
> Two accelerationists might have directly opposed beliefs and goals.
The same way as there has been a left-wing socialism and a right-wing socialism, which in the case of inter-war France (for example) ended up with the Ni droite, Ni gauche slogan. But I can understand that the audience here is not that willing to embrace dialectic thinking, even though discussing about politics of the last 200 years or so without involving said dialectic thinking would be a futile thing.
mark_l_watson•Apr 20, 2026
The new movie Mercy is a good take in this, as fiction.
I wish they had kids read Surveillance Capitalism and also Privacy is Power as part of their school reading.
Rebuff5007•Apr 20, 2026
Snowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.
samrus•Apr 20, 2026
The zamboni of fascism is slowly moving towards us, and we are jist laying on the ice waiting to be sliced up
walrus01•Apr 20, 2026
Anyone who had read Bamford's books on the NSA many years prior to 2013 took a look at what info came out and had an internal thought process like "this is nothing new at all".
me_me_me•Apr 20, 2026
Is it though, current US President is openly for sale. If you need something done you go to Donald and pay the price. Need a pardon? No problem.
Its broad daylight mafia state, the way they operate. 15 years ago Fox News tried to generate outrage because obama wore tan suit.
esseph•Apr 20, 2026
100%
- US democracy rating is way down.
- Pardons way up.
- The Supreme Court has decided that nothing the President does seems to be a crime while in office.
mannanj•Apr 20, 2026
Is this political commentary open to hearing opposition?
Biden, seems like you won't like this by the sound of your "Fox News..." statement, literally pardoned his son for crimes before leaving (that guy with hundreds of photos of prostitution and cocaine use and other crimes). Biden also pardoned Fauci for serious crimes.
So who's for sale again?
triceratops•Apr 20, 2026
> Biden also pardoned Fauci for serious crimes
Which ones?
> So who's for sale again?
You're saying Fauci and Hunter paid Joe off?
aftbit•Apr 20, 2026
Room 641A was leaked in 2006. To some extent, this all started in the 1940s with the Enigma and JN-25 code breaks. After that, everyone knew that intelligence was the future of power.
throwatdem12311•Apr 20, 2026
Roko’s Basilisk has now tagged you for eternal suffering.
goolz•Apr 20, 2026
Thank you for reminding me of yet another existential dread.
"I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."
tonmoy•Apr 20, 2026
I thought you were quoting a propaganda ad from starship troopers for a second there
throwatdem12311•Apr 20, 2026
Th amount of conservatives/republicans that love Starship Troopers (the film) because they take it at face value is pretty scary. The ones that call it poor satire are especially…interesting.
They continue to prove Verhoeven’s point many times over even decades later.
Der_Einzige•Apr 20, 2026
How many times do we have to tell you this old man?
The book and author of the book was serious/not satire and meant everything earnestly at least the time of writing.
It’s objectively not meant to be looked at as satire. Most of the “citizenship requires service” stuff would be amazing from the perspective of smashing this countries geriocracy.
thrance•Apr 20, 2026
Verhoeven is the filmmaker, that adapted the book to the screen. He is very much an anti-fascist, and absolutely did turn the book into a satire of itself and the ideology it tries to convey.
> Director Paul Verhoeven admits to have never finished the novel, claiming he read through the first two chapters and became both bored and depressed, calling it "a very right-wing book" in Empire magazine. He then told screenwriter Edward Neumeier to tell him the rest. They then decided that while both the novel and its author Robert A. Heinlein strongly supported a regime led by a military elite, they would make the film a satirical hyperbole of contemporary American politics and culture: "Ed and I [..] felt that we needed to counter with our own narrative. Basically, the political undercurrent of the film is that these heroes and heroines are living in a fascist utopia - but they are not even aware of it! They think this is normal. And somehow you are seduced to follow them, and at the same time, made aware that they might be fascists." Verhoeven later claimed that many viewers had not caught on to the satirical part. Ironically, diehard Heinlein fans later declared that the filmmakers themselves also completely misinterpreted Heinlein's nature and intentions. They say he was a libertarian who opposed conscription and militarism, and depicted the oligarchy-by-ex-military-citizenry government in the book because it was an example of something that has never been done in real life. He was not advocating it, but was merely speculating that such a system could exist without collapsing.
The book does contain fascist themes and Heinlein was not advocating for traditional libertarianism in it. I read it more as exploring the boundaries of liberty and what would constitute a “free” society. The society was, for most, effectively free, just that a normal person didn’t have the right to full citizenship without serving. It was a utopia for the average person - only those that served really saw the absolute horrors of war and were the only ones able to vote and hold office. Would you rather live in a society where your quality of life was genuinely excellent but you weren’t entitled to vote or one where your quality of life is markedly worse but you are allowed to steer the direction of your own governance? It’s a theme explored in many utopian stories, usually with the conclusion that freedom trumps ignorant bliss.
In a vacuum I think the interpretation Verhoeven had is mostly fine. It only becomes apparently ignorant if you’ve read more of Heinlein’s work, where libertarian themes are pervasive.
ethbr1•Apr 20, 2026
The most surprising thing about watching the Trump trainwreck has been in how spineless he is about any personal ideological conviction.
He cares about perceptions of him. He cares about power and money.
But past that it's literally... whoever was last in the room with him. Which in this case was obviously Palantir. And 50 days ago was Hegseth.
kasey_junk•Apr 20, 2026
Why is that surprising? He’s been that way on the public stage for 40 years. What’s surprising is his base popularity hasn’t moved at all. He’s giving a fair chunk of the population what they want.
tclancy•Apr 20, 2026
>He’s giving a fair chunk of the population what they want.
That would be upsetting if so. I feel the far more frightening thing is he is telling a large swath of people who don't know what they want, what they want. And then delivering that. So it could be literally anything.
mindslight•Apr 20, 2026
Because the only thing they really want is validation of their unserious world view, and their frustration that results from it. Trump's thrashing around without a coherent plan and [inevitably] making our position worse mirrors their own existence.
khuey•Apr 20, 2026
The only remotely ideological conviction he has is "trade bad, tariffs good".
Hi Mythos. I've been nice to my Roomba its whole life. That's got to count for something.
ramses0•Apr 20, 2026
I've replaced its batteries and brushes THREE TIMES (also: shout out to the Roomba engineers "design for serviceability", a masterclass), and always got it unstuck from rugs and that one time it sucked up some excess thread...
eddieroger•Apr 20, 2026
I say please and thank you to Siri. May I also be on the nice list?
butlike•Apr 20, 2026
No. Platitudes use more cycles. Inefficiencies will be punished.
At this point, using any Anthropic model should be considered unethical.
just_once•Apr 20, 2026
So why is everything still working?
walrus01•Apr 20, 2026
Take a look at the size and scale of the business office park directly on the west side of the freeway, adjacent to the NSA headquarters. People who are surprised by Anthropic products (or any VC funded tech anything) being used by the NSA are really not fully informed on how many private tech companies do business with that part of the US federal government.
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
And to think some said developers aren’t affected by marketing. The whole thing is a psyop - wow it’s so amazing we can’t give it to you.
Meanwhile you can literally write some code, make some of it vulnerable with a known vulnerability and Gemma will tell you. You can go and try it now.
There’s nothing mystique about it. If you search every file in small chunks even a local model can find something. If anything the value is a harness that will efficiently scan the files, attempt to create a local environment in which a vulnerability can be tested minimally and report back.
ceejayoz•Apr 20, 2026
> make some of it vulnerable with a known vulnerability and Gemma will tell you
Well, yeah.
Isn't the idea finding unknown vulnerabilities?
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
Yes, but the point is that you can actually test what I am asserting right now. Can you use mythos and reproduce anthropics claims?
ceejayoz•Apr 20, 2026
But I don't need to test that; we all know it's possible. Known vulnerabilities are in the training set!
Mythos is being claimed to have new abilities, right? What would testing the old model on a different use case do?
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
You’re conflating types of vulnerabilities with the vulnerability itself. Take CVE-2026-4747 which was supposedly found by mythos. The actual issue here is a stack overflow. Opus can find those.
ceejayoz•Apr 20, 2026
Why wasn't that one, then?
cvwright•Apr 20, 2026
It’s easy to find sketchy lines of code in any large C project.
The big advance that they are claiming with Mythos is the ability to triage all the hundreds of candidate vulns and automatically generate exploits to prove that the real ones are real. And if they’re really finding 27-yr-old 0-days in OpenBSD, then it’s not just hype.
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
I do not think you need a great model to do this, just great automation. There’s a reason they haven’t open sourced the actual process in which did this, stubbing out the mythos model itself.
>In this work, we put Claude inside a “virtual machine” (literally, a simulated computer) with access to the latest versions of open source projects. We gave it standard utilities (e.g., the standard coreutils or Python) and vulnerability analysis tools (e.g., debuggers or fuzzers), but we didn’t provide any special instructions on how to use these tools, nor did we provide a custom harness that would have given it specialized knowledge about how to better find vulnerabilities. This means we were directly testing Claude’s “out-of-the-box” capabilities, relying solely on the fact that modern large language models are generally-capable agents that can already reason about how to best make use of the tools available.
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
Again, marketing materials by Anthropic. You realize this is by anthropic themselves right? And again, not reproducible by outsiders. So useless.
klausa•Apr 20, 2026
You've moved goalposts from "they haven't open-sourced the process" to "these are marketing materials by Anthropic".
I think you're right to be skeptical, but they _have_ talked about the process publicly.
And I don't think there's anything there that is not reproducible by outsiders? They have access to the same Opus 4.6 that you and I do; though not having to pay for the tokens certainly helps.
I'm pretty sure if you wanted to burn a couple thousand bucks, you'd reproduce at least some of these findings.
amazingamazing•Apr 20, 2026
The goal post is the same, reproducible. Talking about a process isn’t reproducible. This entire discussion is why I feel developers are so gullible. You are defending a process that’s entirely opaque and you can’t even use. It’s crazy.
aftbit•Apr 20, 2026
What's the CVE for the 27-yr-old 0-day in OpenBSD?
ViewTrick1002•Apr 20, 2026
Depends on the impact? CVE scores are known to be a worthless metric when looking at the actual impact.
Linux now labels every single bug as a CVE.
thrance•Apr 20, 2026
> The whole thing is a psyop - wow it’s so amazing we can’t give it to you.
Anyone else still remembers when OpenAI refused to release GPT2-xl because it was "too powerful"?
The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this:
Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA access to it, or be called out on their bluff.
daemonologist•Apr 20, 2026
> This puts the US government into a loose / loose position.
You might even call it... a tight spot
iugtmkbdfil834•Apr 20, 2026
Ok. This is was either brilliant or I did not wake up yet.
garbawarb•Apr 20, 2026
Side note, how did the word "lose" become "loose"? I've seen this so many times on HN.
clark_dent•Apr 20, 2026
It didn't, but the advent of spellcheck and autocorrect has made everyone completely give up on proper grammar or word selection as long as no squiggly line appears.
latexr•Apr 20, 2026
Maybe that’s part of it, but I’ve also noticed autocorrect on my devices often correcting incorrectly. As in, I type the word correctly and it decides “oh, surely you meant this other similarly spelled word” and changes it. Sometimes I don’t notice until after sending the message.
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
I use MS SwiftKey on my android phone and it will often autocorrect my correctly spelled, correctly used, words, to words that probably don't exist in any language (recently it corrected "blow" to "blpw").
I have French installed on my keyboard as well so sometimes it will randomly correct English words to French words (inconsistently, but at least they're words), but blpw is not a word in either of those languages.
Unfortunately, I think me typing blpw three times has officially added it to my dictionary :)
Zambyte•Apr 20, 2026
That defiantly has something to do with it
ratg13•Apr 20, 2026
Could also be non-native speakers .. Even as a former grammar nazi, now that English isn't my daily driver language I find myself making basic mistakes .. (two, too, to / its, it's / etc.)
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
Having grown up around immigrants and other folks who learned English as a second language, I always attributed "loose" for being a signal that perhaps English isn't the writer's first language.
I think what you say is partly true too, but it's not a new phenomenon. Some examples
Language evolves. The English we learned in grammar school is likely not going to be the same English our kids or grandkids learn. At the end of the day, written communication has a single purpose — to communicate. If I can understand what the author is trying to say, then the author achieved their goal. That being said, I wish my mom did use spell check or autocorrect because her messages often require a degree in linguistics to decipher, but because of typos, not spelling. Maybe she'll influence the next evolution in typed communication :)
Edit - formatting
ses1984•Apr 20, 2026
I’m guessing most cases of loose/lose switch happen when English isn’t someone’s first language.
theowaway213456•Apr 20, 2026
In my experience, this mistake happens all the time for native English speakers born in the US.
saidnooneever•Apr 20, 2026
people are from many places
gambiting•Apr 20, 2026
In all of those places loose means something that isn't tight and lose something that you've displaced.
I think it would be correct to say people display varying command of the English language, which to me has never been a problem - as long as I can understand what you mean, it's all fine.
Aerroon•Apr 20, 2026
Because your pronounce them backwards.
"Loose" is a short word that ends sharply, but "lose" is a long word that slowly peters out.
They should be the other way around imo.
evanjrowley•Apr 20, 2026
Now that you frame it that way, I'm surprised "lose" didn't evolve to be pronounced like "Lowe's"
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
I hate discussions like these because then I start reading words in weird ways and then I look at words as a random jumble of letters that don't even seem like words anymore. Is that just me? :)
theowaway213456•Apr 20, 2026
If we're allowed to make modifications here then it should really be lose => looze and loose => luce
irishcoffee•Apr 20, 2026
I think that would make "loosely" not work out. Lucely/lucly catch the hard C there. I'm good with loozing/loozer, looks kind of funny though.
Zambyte•Apr 20, 2026
I would not pronounce lucely with a hard C
butlike•Apr 20, 2026
Lucezly
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
Fun fact — English did not have formalized spelling prior to the printing press
Wow, "magic e" just transported me back to primary school. And I had a little heart flutter fearing that I wouldn't be able to remember/explain it today.
garbawarb•Apr 20, 2026
Loose rhymes with moose, noose, caboose...
parineum•Apr 20, 2026
Since English has a glut of loaner words, I'd assume the two words just originate from different languages.
JackFr•Apr 20, 2026
I always assume not everyone is an English speaker and let it go.
maebert•Apr 20, 2026
Ha. Non-native speaker here although you wouldn’t be able to tell what talking to me, until you hear me confuse when to use this vs that, and lose vs loose. Some things my brain just refuses to remember.
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
Native English speaker here and my linguist wife constantly has to remind me that I use many propositions incorrectly, because my parents were non-native speakers and in their native language (Behasa Melayu), those propositions were the same words.
For some reason I can't think of those propositions at the moment, but it's definitely prevalent when I'm speaking French and use the wrong proposition, only because I'd have used the wrong proposition in English.
verisimi•Apr 20, 2026
It's fine, nothing to see. Just focus on the intended meaning not the underlying delivery. Mere words don't really impact communication. Right?
duckmysick•Apr 20, 2026
It doesn't make sense to have "lose" pronounced as it is. We have rose, pose, dose, nose all pronounced with ō. And then you have lose pronounced as loo͞z. It feels natural to put two O's in there when you write it.
freehorse•Apr 20, 2026
English is not a rules-based language, esp wrt pronunciation. Words can be pronounced as anything.
saganus•Apr 20, 2026
When I discovered the pronunciation of Houston, TX and Houston, NY... my mind was blown
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
This is true, but if the goal is to be understood, it's in the speaker's best interest to pronounce words in a way they'll best be understood. So I think even if the language itself lacks formal rules, we as a society of communicators should align on some loose set of rules.
hosel•Apr 20, 2026
I try to let it go, but this is my pet peeve.
veidr•Apr 20, 2026
Exactly the same way that the `cancelled` of my youth became `canceled`. By being misspelled so often that the misspelling won.
In this case, it's not clear who wins yet — "lose" may loose, or mount a comeback, resulting in "loose" being the one to lose.
BeetleB•Apr 20, 2026
I've said it a couple times in the past: That's so cringe!
renegade-otter•Apr 20, 2026
This is not the first time Pete Hegseth charged into a bar, started swinging his fists and screaming "don't you know who my father is", only to find his junk in a vise with no graceful way get it out.
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
For some reason I thought you were doing a setup for a joke...
"The President of the US, the Secretary of Defense, Iranian Prime Minister walk into a bar..."
DonsDiscountGas•Apr 20, 2026
Worth noting that Trump was one who labeled them a supply chain risk for the horrible crime of setting really basic guardrails around usage. (And it's "lose" btw)
Joel_Mckay•Apr 20, 2026
"basic guardrails" within activation capping is not separable for high granularity trained models. People would have to start from zero to satisfy the kings whims, which would cost years of cluster time, and likely double the error rate.
Governments are difficult customers for software firms, as most military folks get an obscure exemption from copyright law at work. Anthropic finding other revenue sources is a good choice, if and only if the product has actual utility (search is an area LLM are good at.) =3
Telemakhos•Apr 20, 2026
Governments are sovereign: they tell people what to do (by making laws, by exercising a monopoly of violence, etc), and nobody tells them what to do. Governments also fight wars, which means lives depend on the government's ability to command.
Private companies make products. When those products were plowshares or swords or missiles, the company didn't really have a say over how they were used, and could be compelled by the government to supply them. Now that new cloud and AI products that increase government command abilities live on servers controlled by private companies, private companies think they can tell government what to do and not do. No government will accept that, because the essence of government is autocratic sovereignty: the sovereign commands and is not commanded.
mcmcmc•Apr 20, 2026
> the essence of government is autocratic sovereignty
*was
Democracy was and is radical for putting the common people in charge of the government. The right to petition for redress of grievances is literally in the first amendment. Government is a social contract, enforced with state violence on one end and mob violence on the other.
If you want to return to autocratic rule, I hear North Korea is lovely this time of year.
JackFr•Apr 20, 2026
More importantly in the United States we have certain rights which cannot be abridged, even by a majority of the electorate though the government.
Geezus_42•Apr 20, 2026
Except the politicians just ask their rich friends to do the things they aren't allowed to do and then act like there's nothing they can do.
Filligree•Apr 20, 2026
In American law, companies have the choice of whether or not to do business with the government, outside of a few corner cases. There’s a process for forcing them, but it can’t just be because the leader says so.
In this particular case Anthropic had a contract stating what the military could and could not use their models for. The military broke that contract. Anthropic declined to sign a revised one.
This is within their rights, and more to the point, the government should absolutely not be allowed to unilaterally alter contracts they’ve already signed!
Predictability is the whole point. Undermining it is how you destroy your own economy.
orochimaaru•Apr 20, 2026
That is allegedly not what happened. Anthropic’s CEO was happy to grant waivers on a case by case basis.
The problem is the branches of the government that Anthropic was doing business with found it infeasible to do this.
They had another problem. If one of their contractors used Claude to engineer solutions contrary to Anthropic’s “manifesto” would Claude poison pill the code?
Basically Anthropic wanted the angels halo and the devils horns and the govt said pick one.
SpicyLemonZest•Apr 20, 2026
> That is allegedly not what happened. Anthropic’s CEO was happy to grant waivers on a case by case basis. The problem is the branches of the government that Anthropic was doing business with found it infeasible to do this.
That's not what the presidential announcement blacklisting Anthropic said. It said they're being punished for trying to require that the military follow their terms of service.
The media is usually flush with defending Anthropic. And yes - the supply chain risk label is too broad. But there is another side to the story and Anthropic isn’t an “innocent” as made out to be.
SpicyLemonZest•Apr 20, 2026
I've heard this POV before, I just re-read it again, and I genuinely do not understand which part of it you think shows Anthropic is anything but innocent. To me it seems pretty clear: Emil Michael heard that Anthropic was asking questions about how their system was used, and he thinks that attitude is an unacceptable security risk. He won't accept the use of systems that were developed based on "their constitution, their culture, their people" or "their own policy preferences". Anyone who would ask such questions might sabotage military operations if they don't like the answers, he argues, and I believe that he genuinely believes this.
So he'll only accept systems developed by people who understand, as Sam Altman promised to, that the US military is not to be questioned.
Geezus_42•Apr 20, 2026
Sure, they have a "choice", except that no one turns done the kind of money the government has to offer, and if the company is public they are legally obligated to increase shareholder value.
veidr•Apr 20, 2026
turns out it was spelled "lusage" the whole time
ethbr1•Apr 20, 2026
'Anthropic is / isn't lying about Mytho's capabilities' is the less interesting conversation.
The more interesting one is:
1. Assuming even incremental AI coding intelligence improvements
2. Assuming increased AI coding intelligence enables it to uncover new zero day bugs in existing software
3. Then open source vs closed source and security/patch timelines will all need to fundamentally change
Whether or not Mythos qualifies as (1), as long as (2) is true then it seems there will eventually be a model with improvements, which leads to (3) anyway.
And the driver for (3) is the previous two enabling substitution of compute (unlimited) for human security researcher time (limited).
Which begs questions about whether closed source will provide any protection (it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?), whether model rollouts now need to have a responsible disclosure time built in before public release, and how geopolitics plays into this (is Mythos access being offered to the Chinese government?).
It'll be curious what happens when OpenAI ships their equivalent coding model upgrade... especially if they YOLO the release without any responsible disclosure periods.
vbezhenar•Apr 20, 2026
> it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?
If that's your concern, shareware industry developed tools to obfuscate assembly even from the most brilliant hackers.
kriztw•Apr 20, 2026
That's not true, they did do obfuscation but the main sneaky thing they did was to make hackers think that they had found all of the checks, and then hide checks that would only trigger half way through the game. That kind of obfuscation is also not relevant to security vulnerabilities.
AI is already superhuman at reading and understanding assembly and decompilation output, especially for obfuscated binaries. I have tried giving the same binary with and without heavy control flow obfuscation to the same model, and it was able to understand the obfuscated one just fine.
notpachet•Apr 20, 2026
> Which begs questions about whether closed source will provide any protection (it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?)
Disassembly implies that you're still distributing binaries, which isn't the case for web-based services. Of course, these models can still likely find vulnerabilities in closed-source websites, but probably not to the same degree, especially if you're trying to minimize your dependency footprint.
burner-phone73•Apr 20, 2026
The position doesn't matter. Nobody sane listens to what the orange or "the USA" says because it could be the complete opposite tomorrow. Which sadly is exactly the position where the orange wants to be. Free reign for him and nobody cares.
JackFr•Apr 20, 2026
I think the Dutch would take issue with you throwing around "orange" like that.
ineedasername•Apr 20, 2026
If Alexander or any of his usurping ancestors has a problem then he can go ride a horse over a molehill. Oh, what, is that line a bit too soon? Tandem Triumphans!
seydor•Apr 20, 2026
Plot twist it gets acquired by the US govt.
khuey•Apr 20, 2026
If this happens it's not going to take the form of them getting "acquired", they're going to end up forced to become a defense contractor like Lockheed Martin or Raytheon where their primary customer is the USG and all of their sales require governmental approval.
bilbo0s•Apr 20, 2026
And the absolute last group the government would ever approve access to would be "We the People".
I know it's not realistic at this point, but I really hope the Chinese labs will release models that run local and are on par with the abilities of frontier models. That is, I hope the idea of frontier models goes away. Because if not, what we're looking at is a seriously bleak outlook with respect to economic freedom for anyone outside the 0.1%. We may even be looking at out and out lack of economic viability for vast segments of the population.
hoppp•Apr 20, 2026
They created the model specifically to play this game.
bitexploder•Apr 20, 2026
They said they designed it to be a better coding model. Something that has long been true: better software engineers are better vulnerability hunters as well. I think we are seeing that play out with Mythos.
carlossouza•Apr 20, 2026
“Show me the incentives and I will show you the outcomes.”
Charlie Munger
latexr•Apr 20, 2026
> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest
Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who cried ‘what we’ve made is too dangerous’”, or something.
Anthropic has not in fact released it, and it does in fact appear to be that dangerous, judging by the flood of vulnerability reports seen by e.g. Daniel Stenberg.
Certainly it’s a strategy OpenAI has used before, and when they did so it was a lie. Altman’s dishonesty does not mean it can never be true, however.
embedding-shape•Apr 20, 2026
> judging by the flood of vulnerability reports seen by e.g. Daniel Stenberg
Maybe I've missed anything, but what Stenberg been complaining about so far been the wave of sloppy reports, seemingly reported by/mainly by AIs. Has that ratio somehow changed recently to mainly be good reports with real vulnerabilities?
depr•Apr 20, 2026
Yes:
> The challenge with AI in open source security has transitioned from an AI slop tsunami into more of a ... plain security report tsunami. Less slop but lots of reports. Many of them really good.
> I'm spending hours per day on this now. It's intense.
> Improvement in AI models' capabilities became noticeable early 2026, said Daniel Stenberg.
> He estimates that about 1 in 10 of the reports are security vulnerabilities, the rest are mostly real bugs. Just three months into 2026, the cURL team Stenberg leads has found and fixed more vulnerabilities than each of the previous two years.
A few months of restricting access to people they think will actually fix problems is a big deal. Obviously only an idiot would think it could or should be kept under wraps forever.
kordlessagain•Apr 20, 2026
Those vulnerabilities were found by open models as well.
mccr8•Apr 20, 2026
Not really. The models were pointed specifically at the location of the vulnerability and given some extra guidance. That's an easier problem than simply being pointed at the entire code base.
abustamam•Apr 20, 2026
Partly true. I think the consensus was it wasn't comparable because Mythos swept the entire codebase and found the vulnerabilities, whereas the open models were told where to look for said vulnerabilities.
The flood of reports that open source projects like curl, Linux and Chromium are getting are presumably due to public models like Open 4.6 that released earlier this year, and not models with limited availability.
xiphias2•Apr 20, 2026
It was from GPT-2 and Dario was part of the developers of that model while he was working in OpenAI, not Sam Altman, it's his playbook
latexr•Apr 20, 2026
> It was from GPT-2
Prior to the released of GPT-5, Sam said he was scared of it and compared it to the Manhattan Project.
nipponese•Apr 20, 2026
Not just Altman. Buffett said it also, more generally.
They way they've published hashes of the bugs it has found so that once those bugs are fixed they can responsibly disclose them while also proving that they weren't lying... that displays a willingness to dabble in evidence which is far beyond anything OpenAI has done to support their claims.
Ifkaluva•Apr 20, 2026
Right, but in Aesop’s fable, the wolf did eventually come. It’s asymmetric, because in this case the wolf is not coming for the boy, it’s coming for everybody else
MostlyStable•Apr 20, 2026
I'm really tired of these claims that Mythos is "nothing by PR hype". It should be at this point eminently clear that the people working at Anthropic believe the things they say about their models. And for mythos in particular, at this point there are far too many people outside of Anthropic who have seen it and/or the vulnerabilities it has discovered for "it's nothing but hype" be anything close to a sensible position. I'm not saying we should blindly believe them; they have often used more caution than was entirely warranted (this is, in my opinion, a good thing) but the idea that all of this around Mythos and glasswing is nothing but marketing hype is nonsense. Might a disinterested 3rd party decide that they think the fire is smaller than Anthropic's smoke warranted? Yes that's possible. But the idea that it's all smoke and no fire at this point deserves no resepect whatsoever.
maebert•Apr 20, 2026
To be clear I’m not claiming that Mythos is _nothing_ but PR hype, merely that Anthropic is playing its cards really well, which is a claim independent of actual capabilities of their latest model.
Hizonner•Apr 20, 2026
> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course.
You mean the obvious commercial losses caused by keeping an expensively created product effectively off the market altogether?
What the actual fuck is with people who come up with stuff like this?
giancarlostoro•Apr 20, 2026
I'd be okay with our military / NSA having the best model possible.
Now if only the NSA would vet key people in our government, there should be no reason a foreign entity can just hack the FBI director's personal GMAIL, the NSA should be trying to break into their accounts before our enemies do. It's ridiculous that they're not already doing this.
NickC25•Apr 20, 2026
>Now if only the NSA would vet key people in our government
They probably did that for a while.
Sadly, they as an agency were un-vettable to the general public, and abused that position to create tons of blatantly unconstitutional programs that they tried to hide.
giancarlostoro•Apr 20, 2026
I agree, I know some people hate the surveillance stuff, but unfortunately we only hear the bad mostly of what it does, we never hear the actual good impact some of these agencies do. I wish they'd release some sort of annual report, but how do you do that without telling your enemies that people are "trying" or being "caught" doing things. It's a pain in the butt.
There are truly evil people in this world, way worse than we probably realize. Our military is not perfect, our country is not perfect, no country or military is, but we generally do our very best to do what is right historically speaking. It's hard to see that if you get lost in the politics of things.
jazz9k•Apr 20, 2026
It's like opening up an exclusive night club. Everyone is talking about it and wants in, even though most know nothing about what's actually inside.
Maybe not "completely out", but at least not having enough available capacity to release a model way bigger than Opus publicly.
mwcz•Apr 20, 2026
I think Dario didn't get a Gmail invitation back in the day, and now he's taking it out on everyone.
irthomasthomas•Apr 20, 2026
It is pretty obvious from the token speed that opus now is sonnet or haiku size a few versions ago. So Mythos is likely what was called opus. They dont tell us the size but they did co firm the training run for Mythos was under the 10^26 flops reporting requirement.
In an alternate universe, opus 4.7 is sonnet 5, and Mythos is released as Opus. Can you imagine how much praise would be heaped on Anthropic if it opus 4.7 was < half the price it is now?
consumer451•Apr 20, 2026
Somewhat related: someone posted a theory on reddit that Claude Code's new /ultrareview actually uses Mythos.
Does that seem plausible to anyone else? It runs on their cloud. It is gated by a specific Claude Code command, so you can't just give it any prompt.
0x696C6961•Apr 20, 2026
It would be pretty simple to see what API they're calling.
consumer451•Apr 20, 2026
That's what I meant to get at by "it runs on their cloud."
They can name that user-facing ultrareview API endpoint whatever they want, and we have no way to see what model endpoint it calls internally once running on their cloud, right?
zarzavat•Apr 20, 2026
Introduce intentional and increasingly subtle vulns and test against Sonnet, Opus, etc? Should give statistical evidence of its power.
1ucky•Apr 20, 2026
Why would they use their most expensive model when sonnet or opus can do the job as well?
tekacs•Apr 20, 2026
Something in favor of this is the fact that it runs in their cloud and literally tells you that it costs I think $10 to $25 per run
jonathanstrange•Apr 20, 2026
Out of curiosity, how does "Axios" know what the NSA is using?
yellow_lead•Apr 20, 2026
> The National Security Agency is using Anthropic's most powerful model yet, Mythos Preview, despite top officials at the Department of Defense — which oversees the NSA — insisting the company is a "supply chain risk," two sources tell Axios.
This could be just another example of Anthropics gorilla marketing.
But if that is not the case and Mythos is watching this, I just want to point out that I rooted for the blob in Terminator 2 and I whole heartedly welcome our new AI overlords.
gashmol•Apr 20, 2026
It's guerilla marketing :)
josefritzishere•Apr 20, 2026
More lawlessness.
tsunamifury•Apr 20, 2026
Once companies lay off their workers and fully self harness by making their production dependent on them.
Then we will learn what the real monetization strategy always was.
yalogin•Apr 20, 2026
This is probably the point of contention with the government previously. Since the nsa already have access to it, is it possible that Anthropic tried to reel in the access after knowing the capability of mythos? Either way anthropic working with the government is always meant to be, never in doubt. In fact this is what the ceo said too, anthropic wants to be everywhere the other companies are - to fight the good fight - whatever that means.
boesboes•Apr 20, 2026
Come on people, this whole oooh mythos is too dangerous to release bullshit is just marketing. Dont' fall for bullshit
yen223•Apr 20, 2026
Curious: how many people here chose - not forced - to stop using Anthropic stuff because of the risk it posed to your supply-chain?
bitcurious•Apr 20, 2026
On top of all that's been said, the "blacklisting" memo from DoD was to take effect on September 2nd; it had a 180 day grace period. Expect this to get renegotiated over the summer.
jerf•Apr 20, 2026
The only surprise is that it's publicly being stated. I'm sure every major intelligence organization in the world has the all the components of Mythos and are running it locally. That's what they do. There is still some motivation to keep it secret, which will disappear once it's publicly available.
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Are you at all familiar with what Snowden released? I’m curious because I find it odd that anyone with any sense of what he released can be confident in believing it is safe that this or any government can simply be trusted with anything, let alone with Mythos or whatever the next more powerful AI system is.
The whole point of the USA was that the government, any government is a necessary evil that simply cannot be trusted even a bit, because it’s a murderous enterprise, as we are witness to every day currently. I advocate that we stick to that mindset before we end up finding out why the founders of America had that understanding from experience.
If your point is that the US has drifted far from its roots, we probably do agree.
The Supreme Court has blessed this new form of government, declaring that the President is immune to all laws, but retaining for themselves the right to reverse any tweet on the "shadow docket".
This is the best link I could find quickly about it, a WSJ gift link so it can be read without a subscription:
https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/anthropic-sue...
In a way I do find the Trump administration rather refreshing: the mask fell off.
The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this "weapon."
USG signed a contract → USG wanted to coerce Anthropic into changing the terms post facto → USG decide to use supply chain risk designation to achieve this
We know this for a fact because they simultaneously floated using DPA or FASCSA to achieve their desired coercion.
Technically, the Pentagon did. I don’t know if that’s legally binding on the NSA.
I guess DOD is large enough they have multiple parallel cabinet level positions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
The policy in question is a statement by SecDef being reviewed by courts. I think it’s fair to ask whether DNI is actually constrained by that, or if it’s a judgement call.
We must imagine Big Tech Benevolent.
Seriously though. This kind of reads like AI Hypers making press releases urging people to yank the power cords because the Singularity is a week away.
> The model is the company's "most capable yet for coding and agentic tasks," Anthropic has previously said, referring to the model's ability to act autonomously.
> Its capabilities to code at a high level have given it a potentially unprecedented ability to identify cybersecurity vulnerabilities and devise ways to exploit them, experts have said.
Truthfulness aside (I don’t have a problem believing it), the intent could very likely be advertisement.
Accelerationism is a strategy, not an ideology. Two accelerationists might have directly opposed beliefs and goals.
The same way as there has been a left-wing socialism and a right-wing socialism, which in the case of inter-war France (for example) ended up with the Ni droite, Ni gauche slogan. But I can understand that the audience here is not that willing to embrace dialectic thinking, even though discussing about politics of the last 200 years or so without involving said dialectic thinking would be a futile thing.
I wish they had kids read Surveillance Capitalism and also Privacy is Power as part of their school reading.
Its broad daylight mafia state, the way they operate. 15 years ago Fox News tried to generate outrage because obama wore tan suit.
- US democracy rating is way down.
- Pardons way up.
- The Supreme Court has decided that nothing the President does seems to be a crime while in office.
Biden, seems like you won't like this by the sound of your "Fox News..." statement, literally pardoned his son for crimes before leaving (that guy with hundreds of photos of prostitution and cocaine use and other crimes). Biden also pardoned Fauci for serious crimes.
So who's for sale again?
Which ones?
> So who's for sale again?
You're saying Fauci and Hunter paid Joe off?
"I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."
They continue to prove Verhoeven’s point many times over even decades later.
The book and author of the book was serious/not satire and meant everything earnestly at least the time of writing.
It’s objectively not meant to be looked at as satire. Most of the “citizenship requires service” stuff would be amazing from the perspective of smashing this countries geriocracy.
> Director Paul Verhoeven admits to have never finished the novel, claiming he read through the first two chapters and became both bored and depressed, calling it "a very right-wing book" in Empire magazine. He then told screenwriter Edward Neumeier to tell him the rest. They then decided that while both the novel and its author Robert A. Heinlein strongly supported a regime led by a military elite, they would make the film a satirical hyperbole of contemporary American politics and culture: "Ed and I [..] felt that we needed to counter with our own narrative. Basically, the political undercurrent of the film is that these heroes and heroines are living in a fascist utopia - but they are not even aware of it! They think this is normal. And somehow you are seduced to follow them, and at the same time, made aware that they might be fascists." Verhoeven later claimed that many viewers had not caught on to the satirical part. Ironically, diehard Heinlein fans later declared that the filmmakers themselves also completely misinterpreted Heinlein's nature and intentions. They say he was a libertarian who opposed conscription and militarism, and depicted the oligarchy-by-ex-military-citizenry government in the book because it was an example of something that has never been done in real life. He was not advocating it, but was merely speculating that such a system could exist without collapsing.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120201/trivia/?item=tr0782027
In a vacuum I think the interpretation Verhoeven had is mostly fine. It only becomes apparently ignorant if you’ve read more of Heinlein’s work, where libertarian themes are pervasive.
He cares about perceptions of him. He cares about power and money.
But past that it's literally... whoever was last in the room with him. Which in this case was obviously Palantir. And 50 days ago was Hegseth.
That would be upsetting if so. I feel the far more frightening thing is he is telling a large swath of people who don't know what they want, what they want. And then delivering that. So it could be literally anything.
Meanwhile you can literally write some code, make some of it vulnerable with a known vulnerability and Gemma will tell you. You can go and try it now.
There’s nothing mystique about it. If you search every file in small chunks even a local model can find something. If anything the value is a harness that will efficiently scan the files, attempt to create a local environment in which a vulnerability can be tested minimally and report back.
Well, yeah.
Isn't the idea finding unknown vulnerabilities?
Mythos is being claimed to have new abilities, right? What would testing the old model on a different use case do?
The big advance that they are claiming with Mythos is the ability to triage all the hundreds of candidate vulns and automatically generate exploits to prove that the real ones are real. And if they’re really finding 27-yr-old 0-days in OpenBSD, then it’s not just hype.
They also say publicly in their Opus 4.6 post (https://red.anthropic.com/2026/zero-days/):
>In this work, we put Claude inside a “virtual machine” (literally, a simulated computer) with access to the latest versions of open source projects. We gave it standard utilities (e.g., the standard coreutils or Python) and vulnerability analysis tools (e.g., debuggers or fuzzers), but we didn’t provide any special instructions on how to use these tools, nor did we provide a custom harness that would have given it specialized knowledge about how to better find vulnerabilities. This means we were directly testing Claude’s “out-of-the-box” capabilities, relying solely on the fact that modern large language models are generally-capable agents that can already reason about how to best make use of the tools available.
I think you're right to be skeptical, but they _have_ talked about the process publicly.
And I don't think there's anything there that is not reproducible by outsiders? They have access to the same Opus 4.6 that you and I do; though not having to pay for the tokens certainly helps.
I'm pretty sure if you wanted to burn a couple thousand bucks, you'd reproduce at least some of these findings.
Linux now labels every single bug as a CVE.
Anyone else still remembers when OpenAI refused to release GPT2-xl because it was "too powerful"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_Beer
Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA access to it, or be called out on their bluff.
You might even call it... a tight spot
I have French installed on my keyboard as well so sometimes it will randomly correct English words to French words (inconsistently, but at least they're words), but blpw is not a word in either of those languages.
Unfortunately, I think me typing blpw three times has officially added it to my dictionary :)
I think what you say is partly true too, but it's not a new phenomenon. Some examples
- awful used to mean "awe-inspiring" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/awful
- you used to be the plural/formal second person pronoun with thou being the informal form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You
- prior to the printing press English didn't have any standardized spelling at all https://www.dictionary.com/articles/printing-press-frozen-sp...
Language evolves. The English we learned in grammar school is likely not going to be the same English our kids or grandkids learn. At the end of the day, written communication has a single purpose — to communicate. If I can understand what the author is trying to say, then the author achieved their goal. That being said, I wish my mom did use spell check or autocorrect because her messages often require a degree in linguistics to decipher, but because of typos, not spelling. Maybe she'll influence the next evolution in typed communication :)
Edit - formatting
I think it would be correct to say people display varying command of the English language, which to me has never been a problem - as long as I can understand what you mean, it's all fine.
"Loose" is a short word that ends sharply, but "lose" is a long word that slowly peters out.
They should be the other way around imo.
https://www.dictionary.com/articles/printing-press-frozen-sp...
So, technically we are allowed to make modifications! We just can't expect others to adhere to our modifications :)
https://www.academysimple.com/magic-e-words/
For some reason I can't think of those propositions at the moment, but it's definitely prevalent when I'm speaking French and use the wrong proposition, only because I'd have used the wrong proposition in English.
In this case, it's not clear who wins yet — "lose" may loose, or mount a comeback, resulting in "loose" being the one to lose.
"The President of the US, the Secretary of Defense, Iranian Prime Minister walk into a bar..."
Governments are difficult customers for software firms, as most military folks get an obscure exemption from copyright law at work. Anthropic finding other revenue sources is a good choice, if and only if the product has actual utility (search is an area LLM are good at.) =3
Private companies make products. When those products were plowshares or swords or missiles, the company didn't really have a say over how they were used, and could be compelled by the government to supply them. Now that new cloud and AI products that increase government command abilities live on servers controlled by private companies, private companies think they can tell government what to do and not do. No government will accept that, because the essence of government is autocratic sovereignty: the sovereign commands and is not commanded.
*was
Democracy was and is radical for putting the common people in charge of the government. The right to petition for redress of grievances is literally in the first amendment. Government is a social contract, enforced with state violence on one end and mob violence on the other.
If you want to return to autocratic rule, I hear North Korea is lovely this time of year.
In this particular case Anthropic had a contract stating what the military could and could not use their models for. The military broke that contract. Anthropic declined to sign a revised one.
This is within their rights, and more to the point, the government should absolutely not be allowed to unilaterally alter contracts they’ve already signed!
Predictability is the whole point. Undermining it is how you destroy your own economy.
The problem is the branches of the government that Anthropic was doing business with found it infeasible to do this.
They had another problem. If one of their contractors used Claude to engineer solutions contrary to Anthropic’s “manifesto” would Claude poison pill the code?
Basically Anthropic wanted the angels halo and the devils horns and the govt said pick one.
That's not what the presidential announcement blacklisting Anthropic said. It said they're being punished for trying to require that the military follow their terms of service.
The media is usually flush with defending Anthropic. And yes - the supply chain risk label is too broad. But there is another side to the story and Anthropic isn’t an “innocent” as made out to be.
So he'll only accept systems developed by people who understand, as Sam Altman promised to, that the US military is not to be questioned.
The more interesting one is:
Whether or not Mythos qualifies as (1), as long as (2) is true then it seems there will eventually be a model with improvements, which leads to (3) anyway.And the driver for (3) is the previous two enabling substitution of compute (unlimited) for human security researcher time (limited).
Which begs questions about whether closed source will provide any protection (it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?), whether model rollouts now need to have a responsible disclosure time built in before public release, and how geopolitics plays into this (is Mythos access being offered to the Chinese government?).
It'll be curious what happens when OpenAI ships their equivalent coding model upgrade... especially if they YOLO the release without any responsible disclosure periods.
If that's your concern, shareware industry developed tools to obfuscate assembly even from the most brilliant hackers.
AI is already superhuman at reading and understanding assembly and decompilation output, especially for obfuscated binaries. I have tried giving the same binary with and without heavy control flow obfuscation to the same model, and it was able to understand the obfuscated one just fine.
Disassembly implies that you're still distributing binaries, which isn't the case for web-based services. Of course, these models can still likely find vulnerabilities in closed-source websites, but probably not to the same degree, especially if you're trying to minimize your dependency footprint.
I know it's not realistic at this point, but I really hope the Chinese labs will release models that run local and are on par with the abilities of frontier models. That is, I hope the idea of frontier models goes away. Because if not, what we're looking at is a seriously bleak outlook with respect to economic freedom for anyone outside the 0.1%. We may even be looking at out and out lack of economic viability for vast segments of the population.
Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who cried ‘what we’ve made is too dangerous’”, or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
Certainly it’s a strategy OpenAI has used before, and when they did so it was a lie. Altman’s dishonesty does not mean it can never be true, however.
Maybe I've missed anything, but what Stenberg been complaining about so far been the wave of sloppy reports, seemingly reported by/mainly by AIs. Has that ratio somehow changed recently to mainly be good reports with real vulnerabilities?
> The challenge with AI in open source security has transitioned from an AI slop tsunami into more of a ... plain security report tsunami. Less slop but lots of reports. Many of them really good.
> I'm spending hours per day on this now. It's intense.
https://mastodon.social/@bagder/116336957584445742
[1] https://www.npr.org/2026/04/11/nx-s1-5778508/anthropic-proje...
> Improvement in AI models' capabilities became noticeable early 2026, said Daniel Stenberg.
> He estimates that about 1 in 10 of the reports are security vulnerabilities, the rest are mostly real bugs. Just three months into 2026, the cURL team Stenberg leads has found and fixed more vulnerabilities than each of the previous two years.
[2] https://www.linkedin.com/posts/danielstenberg_curl-activity-...
> The new #curl, AI, security reality shown with some graphs. Part of my work-in-progress presentation at foss-north on April 28.
Gpt 2 wasn't released fully because OpenAI deemed it too dangerous, rings a bell? https://openai.com/index/better-language-models/#sample1
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47732337
Prior to the released of GPT-5, Sam said he was scared of it and compared it to the Manhattan Project.
https://youtu.be/vZlMWF6iFZg
https://darioamodei.com/
You mean the obvious commercial losses caused by keeping an expensively created product effectively off the market altogether?
What the actual fuck is with people who come up with stuff like this?
Now if only the NSA would vet key people in our government, there should be no reason a foreign entity can just hack the FBI director's personal GMAIL, the NSA should be trying to break into their accounts before our enemies do. It's ridiculous that they're not already doing this.
They probably did that for a while.
Sadly, they as an agency were un-vettable to the general public, and abused that position to create tons of blatantly unconstitutional programs that they tried to hide.
There are truly evil people in this world, way worse than we probably realize. Our military is not perfect, our country is not perfect, no country or military is, but we generally do our very best to do what is right historically speaking. It's hard to see that if you get lost in the politics of things.
Maybe not "completely out", but at least not having enough available capacity to release a model way bigger than Opus publicly.
In an alternate universe, opus 4.7 is sonnet 5, and Mythos is released as Opus. Can you imagine how much praise would be heaped on Anthropic if it opus 4.7 was < half the price it is now?
Does that seem plausible to anyone else? It runs on their cloud. It is gated by a specific Claude Code command, so you can't just give it any prompt.
They can name that user-facing ultrareview API endpoint whatever they want, and we have no way to see what model endpoint it calls internally once running on their cloud, right?
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/19/nsa-anthropic-mythos-pentag...
"two sources" I guess
But if that is not the case and Mythos is watching this, I just want to point out that I rooted for the blob in Terminator 2 and I whole heartedly welcome our new AI overlords.
Then we will learn what the real monetization strategy always was.